GO WITH THE FLOW
by Neil Young, 4/11/2009
Most of us think the world needs change. Change to save the planet. Change to get the economy going again.
I read a story recently about a man who bought new cars twice a year, at least. He was retired and had been buying new cars each year for most of his life. He liked Cadillacs and other big cars. Recently the Cadillac Escalade was his favorite. He loved to go online and "build" custom cars by adding his own feature package and colors. In the old days he would order the car he had "built" online and it would arrive a month or so later. Nowadays, he just "builds" them online and doesn't order. He still has the money, but feels that the big cars are just too much....Too much fuel. Not politically correct. Too hard to explain the purchases to his friends.
The compulsive new and big car habit is ingrained old America. A lot of people are like that and it will be a hard habit to break. This gets to the very reason why we are building Lincvolt. We think change will not come from going against the flow. We say go with the flow.
A lot of people want big cars. Notice the guy in the story I read ONLY buys huge monster autos, the latest and greatest. That buyer is the secret to making change happen. This buying segment will not want a new small car. They will want a big one but won't buy it either in this economy. We think if they could have a big monster Escalade or F250 with a green pedigree and a super new and clean motive power system that delivers BIG power, low emissions and HI MILEAGE efficiency, they would buy it right now. That is how the big change will happen, not by just making 3 wheelers and super-little lightweight cars, whether they have luxury or not. For these car buyers, offering small lightweight electric limited range cars is going against the flow and will mean change will come too slow to matter. However, they WILL buy a new, big, fast and green car that says "this is me" to them. That is the way to get the huge gas guzzlers off the road.
Lincvolt is a Continental. It's built to go a long way in comfort without needing to stop and recharge. Lincvolt charges itself while rolling. Not everyone needs one, but real change will not happen without BIG green cars and trucks. It's the old American way and it will not change overnight. We are in a race against time!
Lincvolt technology demonstrates a way to fill a need. Our goal is 100 mpg. We have achieved 65 mpg to date using domestic fuel. This technology could be utilized in big green American made cars. Imagine a GM Cadillac Escalade or FORD F-series truck that gets 50-75 mpg plus with quiet and efficient electric power.
by Neil Young, 4/11/2009
Most of us think the world needs change. Change to save the planet. Change to get the economy going again.
I read a story recently about a man who bought new cars twice a year, at least. He was retired and had been buying new cars each year for most of his life. He liked Cadillacs and other big cars. Recently the Cadillac Escalade was his favorite. He loved to go online and "build" custom cars by adding his own feature package and colors. In the old days he would order the car he had "built" online and it would arrive a month or so later. Nowadays, he just "builds" them online and doesn't order. He still has the money, but feels that the big cars are just too much....Too much fuel. Not politically correct. Too hard to explain the purchases to his friends.
The compulsive new and big car habit is ingrained old America. A lot of people are like that and it will be a hard habit to break. This gets to the very reason why we are building Lincvolt. We think change will not come from going against the flow. We say go with the flow.
A lot of people want big cars. Notice the guy in the story I read ONLY buys huge monster autos, the latest and greatest. That buyer is the secret to making change happen. This buying segment will not want a new small car. They will want a big one but won't buy it either in this economy. We think if they could have a big monster Escalade or F250 with a green pedigree and a super new and clean motive power system that delivers BIG power, low emissions and HI MILEAGE efficiency, they would buy it right now. That is how the big change will happen, not by just making 3 wheelers and super-little lightweight cars, whether they have luxury or not. For these car buyers, offering small lightweight electric limited range cars is going against the flow and will mean change will come too slow to matter. However, they WILL buy a new, big, fast and green car that says "this is me" to them. That is the way to get the huge gas guzzlers off the road.
Lincvolt is a Continental. It's built to go a long way in comfort without needing to stop and recharge. Lincvolt charges itself while rolling. Not everyone needs one, but real change will not happen without BIG green cars and trucks. It's the old American way and it will not change overnight. We are in a race against time!
Lincvolt technology demonstrates a way to fill a need. Our goal is 100 mpg. We have achieved 65 mpg to date using domestic fuel. This technology could be utilized in big green American made cars. Imagine a GM Cadillac Escalade or FORD F-series truck that gets 50-75 mpg plus with quiet and efficient electric power.
Too true: "For these car buyers, offering small lightweight electric limited range cars is going against the flow and will mean change will come too slow to matter. " Nano Solar Paint: =D http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2007/2007-11-12-094.asp
Popular Mechanics took a 1973 Olds Cutlass with a 350 and stuffed enough batteries into it to bring the weight up to 5000 pounds. Their gas/electric hybrid got 75 MPG in 1973. This tech is so old that it dates back to 1900. John Holland did the first hybrid powerplant and used it to build the first powered submersible. He used a gasoline engine. Diesels were better for military applications (gas is much more flammable) and a diesel engine is best suited for situations where steady lower RPM's are needed, so later generations of submersibles were powered by diesel/electric systems. Today we see a whole lot of gimmicks, hype and such but if you compare MPG's for all but the highest scoring hybrids, your typical hybrid is easily beaten by a Chevy Sprint 3-cylinder from the 1990's in fuel economy. Something is wrong with this picture. New tech from this year showcased how to take lithium-ion batteries, add some holes and voila, the extra surface area allowed for a full charging to take place in a few minutes, the same few minutes it would take an ordinary petro-fueled vehicle to fill up. New tech from 2008, just before the election, showed a new design for a fuel cell. Combine the two techs and there's your new power plant. Now if this was World War II and we got a new tech that worked wonders, it would be out in the field in a matter of months. Today we are in a war of sorts, the war to stop global warming, the war to halt the economic decline of America and the war to end war for energy resources. Yet where is Obama and the rest of the US government when we need them? If FDR had been as poor at responding to the threat at hand back in his day, we'd all be speaking German or Japanese. These new techs are not secret, they were in the mainstream press right here on the net. Is anyone awake at 1600 Pennsylvania? All the new tech and all the old tech mean nothing without a plan to deal with our current problems. Folks, I hate to disappoint you but there is no Really Good Plan out there, just a lot of political posturing. Not enough of the public is stirred up to recall, impeach and vote out da' bums. So let's all watch Rome burn and think of what we could have had: 1-The fuel cell that not only powers your car, it powers your house. You get off the energy grid. No new power plants are needed and the ones we have are used for high voltage industrial applications. We then move on to getting as many new fuel cells into light duty applications as possible so we can quit using as much nuclear, coal and LNG as we currently do. 2-All the new fuel cells and batteries have to be built someplace. What about right here in the US of A? We have lost so many MILLIONS of industrial jobs, some due to tech replacing workers and some due to out-sourcing jobs overseas. Instead of tax incentives to ship out those jobs, how about tax incentives to open up factories to make the new items? Those who work PAY taxes and the more people we get back to work, the sooner we can cut down the Bush/Obama $11 TRILLION deficit. 3-Cash for clunkers? So many good cars going to waste is taking place. If a 1959 Continental Mark-series convertible and a 1973 Olds Cutlass can be made to perform high MPG's by a magazine and a musician with some money, what would happen if legit industrial concerns got a crack at retrofitting our entire vehicle fleet with mass-manufactured retrofitting kits that will also need to be installed? Instead of a fleet MPG of 30 or so MPG that the government mandates, we head for triple that and more. Who saves on the gas bill? Everyone who buys gas. Only the oil companies and the politicians in their pocket as well as the bamboozled sheeple they propagandize would oppose saving money on their fuel costs by supporting programs and policies that stop these tremendous economies from being achieved. By the time the program is fully implemented, if you think big cars and muscle cars of the 1950's and 1960's are valuable today, imagine their value when those old classic bodies are revamped under the skin with all new tech! 4-With jobs being created that are family-wage jobs, with an education system that has a mission to turn out workers to do all the different jobs implementing the new tech to get tax funding that in the end repays the taxpayer manyfold in economic productivity a la the original GI Bill, with energy independence allowing us to tell the Arabs, Persians and the Venezuelans from OPEC what cliff they can drive over, with the ability to export this tech to the EU, Russia, Japan and especially India and China to slow down the emissions that around 3 BILLION people (10 times the population of America) put out, we are strong at home and in relation to our friends and adversaries overseas. We won World War II in large part due to industrial production. We get that edge back and win the "war" for making life better for the planet's inhabitants as a whole!!! 5-The Law of Unintended Consequences also has a corollary in the Law of Unforseen Benefits. You do things right enough times and on a large enough scale to score serendipity points. Also, a rising tide floats all boats. We do as well as we can and it helps out everyone else to some degree, with that degree being a function of policy and persuasion. 6-Add in Your Dream here. But none of this is going to happen since there are no true leaders to make it happen. A poor excuse for a democratic republic in whicb corporate influence, religious extremism and bureaucratic inertia is what we have to work with and it needs to be overhauled even more than the current method of powering vehicles does. Until we have a system of governing ourselves that can be as efficient at identifying and solving problems as possible, we won't get the solutions we need in a timely fashion and guess what, time is running short, very short.
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Thanks Neil for making a difference, what ever the decade you alwaYS MAKE a difference..... Congrats to you for such a fine web site and links and very cool video steam about your dvd/blue ray offerings..... Bob Marley will have passed 30 years ago as of upcoming 2011, how about producing a "new kind of car" benefit concert at SHORLINE, MT. VIEW, to celebrate the "peoples" music and products people should get behind and support..... I'll look forward to my invitation if you can lock that in. Your the best in the west! REALLY NICE WEB SITE you have, very inspiring, inovative, fun to view and peruse... Keep on rockin in the free world!! karen taylor [email protected]
Neil, I occasionally see you in the El Dorado with the top down driving by my house on Skyline Blvd. Stop by some time I have a great idea for you to build a very efficient on board charging system that I think is better than messing with Hydrogen gas. Ed
Hi Neil, I really think you're going to make a difference. You guys are pioneering and doing what GM, Ford and Crysler should have been doing and what they received quite an amount of governmental money for. By the way did you ever hear about the Opel P-1 that ran 376 mpg in 1973 on vaporated gaz? (http://www.opel-p1.nl/custom/testcar/Ben%20Visser/worldrecord%20376%20mpg%20opel%20p1.htm). The principle is explained by Anthony O'Donnal (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Carburetors/Anthony_P_ODonnell/index.html) I'm sure you did. There's also an interesting idea developed by Raphial Morgado at Angel Labs. (http://angellabsllc.com/). I'm sure you also heard about him, but just in case I'd thought I mention it. regards, JD
Hi Neil, I really think you're going to make a difference. You guys are pioneering and doing what GM, Ford and Crysler should have been doing and what they received quite an amount of governmental money for. By the way did you ever hear about the Opel P-1 that ran 376 mpg in 1973 on vaporated gaz? (http://www.opel-p1.nl/custom/testcar/Ben%20Visser/worldrecord%20376%20mpg%20opel%20p1.htm). The principle is explained by Anthony O'Donnal (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Carburetors/Anthony_P_ODonnell/index.html) I'm sure you did. There's also an interesting idea developed by Raphial Morgado at Angel Labs. (http://angellabsllc.com/). I'm sure you also heard about him, but just in case I'd thought I mention it. regards, JD
Fuck Green. It's a way for Gore & Co. to take your tax money and turn it into weapons of mass destruction. Carbon credits? What a fuckin' joke. Climatologists around the world are skeptics by nature, all scientists are, and any scientist worth their salt would study the Sun as a factor for Global Warming. I hope Neil, who never jumped on a mainstream bandwagon in his life, would not sell-out now in the best years of his life!!! I've been a fan for 7 years. I appreciate Neil's sincerity when it comes to environmental sustenance, but I don't want to see Neil duped into a false reality. Human's are not the problem. But this Lincvolt is a great idea btw. Genius stuff.
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Apart from the other benefits, this technology is what we lovers of old and big cars want to allow us an option to run our precious metal into the ground as God intended, without the doubt in our mind that we might be harming the world we love. I have an old 24 valve 6 cylinder 3000cc Merc station wagon, it gives me 18mpg in town, 22 on a trip, no matter how I hit the pedal. It is 30 years old, and I am guessing that is three car's lifetimes generally speaking. On the basis that at least 35% of this car's carbon footprint was in its manafacture, and connot ever be recovered except by driving it on and on, the environmentally friendly thing to do is to run it into the ground, and that will take a long time being an old Merc! Where I see Neil's technology being applied beautifully is in cars like Rolls Royce, Bentley, Bristol. You can pick up a beautiful 70s Rolls Royce for peanuts nowadays. With this tech on board, those amazing luxury cars can have a brand new life. This can truly make a difference to those wanting luxury but also wanting to consider the environment. I don't like to go down to flats 'Cause I can't park on a hill Instead getting a rolling start I have to pay the bill.. Of course with electric motors we don't have to worry about starter motors either! :)
Apart from the other benefits, this technology is what we lovers of old and big cars want to allow us an option to run our precious metal into the ground as God intended, without the doubt in our mind that we might be harming the world we love. I have an old 24 valve 6 cylinder 3000cc Merc station wagon, it gives me 18mpg in town, 22 on a trip, no matter how I hit the pedal. It is 30 years old, and I am guessing that is three car's lifetimes generally speaking. On the basis that at least 35% of this car's carbon footprint was in its manafacture, and connot ever be recovered except by driving it on and on, the environmentally friendly thing to do is to run it into the ground, and that will take a long time being an old Merc! Where I see Neil's technology being applied beautifully is in cars like Rolls Royce, Bentley, Bristol. You can pick up a beautiful 70s Rolls Royce for peanuts nowadays. With this tech on board, those amazing luxury cars can have a brand new life. This can truly make a difference to those wanting luxury but also wanting to consider the environment. I don't like to go down to flats 'Cause I can't park on a hill Instead getting a rolling start I have to pay the bill.. Of course with electric motors we don't have to worry about starter motors either! :)
Dear Neil, Here in Brasil, we celebrate his birthday We do a show in his honor just days 12/11/2009. Thank you for everything you have done for music ... A Big hug from Luiz Albano - bassist of Topanga Ps: the name of the bar where we play is DYLAN and is in the city of Sao Paulo http://www.orkut.com.br/Main#AlbumZoom?uid=13923181670244239399&pid=1257107661750&aid=1255687403$pid=1257107661750
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Hi Neil, Great car, love the technology and the way you have put it in your old beast. I think the major problem with getting this stuff into main stream is that generally people dont like change and Im sorry to say but most Americans are so stuck in their ways that if you offered the conversion for free they wouldnt take it up in fear of being ripped off some how. If this sort of technology is to make it in mainstream it needs to start making headway on the commercial and military side of things first as with most tech based products we use today. Once it has been fully embraced by people who are actually making money out of it then the mainstream public will be knocking the doors down to get it for them selves. How many people would like to own a Humvee?......then again, if it was Hybrid would you still buy it today before the military have used it for 5 years or so in all manor of situations to iron out any bugs. A lot of our councils here in Victoria tried the series 1 Prius in a fleet situation along side Corollas and found them to cost more to operate and service as well as didnt provide a substancial reduction in fuel consumption that was expected over the standard corolla. But out of that trial came a lot of good data some of which made it obvious that the prius suffers from not being able to be charged without the engine running or going down a very very long hill. In saying that, if it was possible to charge them when parked then the fuel consumption would have been significantly less which would have easilly offset the higher maintenance costs which would also come down in price as technology caught up. There is already at least 1 company in the UK building conversion kits to turn your car into an EV but I havnt come across a hybrid conversion as yet but Im sure it would be a great money spinner. As far as for just an observers comments re: Bringing manufacturing back to the US again, The main problem there as with here are labour costs. It's all well and good to have the work force, the factories and the technology but you need a workforce who will work for a fraction of what Americans, Australians or Britains for that matter will work for to make it commertially viable. This is why most manufacturing moves over seas, and subsidies can only last so long before you end up where you are now after a total financial melt down in 11 trillion US deficit. There would be nothing wrong with doing the creative work in the US and doing the main manufacturing offshore. This not only makes the technology affordable but also improoves the economies of these stuggling nations which improoves thier peoples lives and gets them closer to having less poverty etc as well as bringing the technology to the world a lot quicker than if you were to try and keep it all inhouse in the states.
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Hay Neil, Here's a thought. Why don't you release every album you ever made & charge a million $$ a copy. You were the best, now worst than all the rest.
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Your next album will be massive to me, your average Slavemart consumer. Honestly. Your music is like Slavemart adverts, without the perversions. I wish your bio-dynamic car was as mass marketed as your music. One day, one day. P.S. Never associate yourself with Slavemart. My generation of Indie Rock owes you something special. Just like the Auto Industry.
I have fond memories of you streaming by in what appeared to be a Packard "Woody" about 1975 in Santa Cruz, Ca. Now THAT would be a cool Linc-Volt project. A power plant package that could be dropped into one of the multi-thousands of Ford F-150 pickups would be great. My 1995 model still gets better mileage than most of the new ones. I got 27 MPG in a 1989 F-150 with straight six and 5 speed on a highway trip to Louisiana. Imagine your power pack in one of those. Hey, Hey, My my...........Gas guzzlin cars are gonna die.
I'm jumping on your roof, hoping to spring a leak. There's nothing wrong with your Lincoln, but there could be something queer with your attitude. Cheer up, winter is here, aren't you half Inuit?
How "quiet on the western front" does it have to be, to have to talk about someone else's invention? We should all invent something this year. Resolutions be damned, invent something anyway! Thanks for reviewing my post. haha. I often post junk, and always drunk.
Since I'm not being censored, I might as well be candid. I HATE cars. I take the bus. Not because cars pollute, but because I can't hear music and lectures in my headphones with all these cars whizzing by. A few have almost hit me listening to Neil's music. -- That ain't cool. -- Where's the flying cars we were promised in the early 90's? Give me a horse and buggy. SCREW cars. My life is worth more than your "status". Give me something out of 'The Great Gatsby', otherwise I'm not interested!
So I missed the bus. Oh well, I have Neil's albums from the 90's on my walkman. It's minus 20 degrees Celsius out, and the snow is thigh deep, the crust of which cuts into the flesh, but it's OK. ---- I only have to walk in this mess for 45 minutes. The dead trees are somewhat beautiful. Nothing like World War One, that's for sure. ---- I am blessed. I am blessed. I repeat that mantra until it sticks in the brain. ---- A bird follows my deadening steps as I walk through the fields. Is it mocking me, flirting, or is it trying to give me guidance? ---- Chirp, chirp. God only knows. ---- It's cold. My only warmth is Neil Young singing about the open road and a woman working in a diner. ---- My hands are warm but my face is numb. You could race a card across my face and draw blood. I wouldn't notice, This type of weather brings on frost-bite. I'm sure Neil had this weather in Winnepeg. ---- Prime of Life. I'm getting home quicker than I imagined. Trees thin out and the snow becomes ice. I can deal with ice. ---- I enter the house as Safeway Cart comes on. The battery lasts a long time. So surprisingly do my feet. I should buy a car. I should buy many things, boots most of all. ---- Next pay check, boots are on the list! So is a book. My face is warming now, I can almost feel it. The rosy complexion I had for hours seems to subside with the warmth. My survival instincts fall away like rose pedals. ---- What have I done to deserve such a climate? Derision falls away soon enough. ---- What have I done to deserve being born in such a country, with such amazing parents? This feeling remains. ---- I remind myself: time is precious, make something of it.
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Goddamnit Neil. Where are all the men in Parliament? I'm half Pennsylvanian and half Native Canadian. That's a stupid mix. ----- What I really want is an independent country. What is Canada still doing in Afghanistan? The Military is making money, pensions and all, but the troops and tax payers deserve better. They deserve AN ACTUAL CAUSE. ----- Bin Laden is either dead, or too busy for us. 10 years on. Canadians are seldom giving fuss. The British laugh at us. Fuck. Fuck. Aren't we better than them? ----- Are we just a whore with a recurring case of amnesia? ----- Or have we denigrated our morals to the point of being ineffectual on the world stage? ----- Is Canada as a global idea dead?
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Where can I find your Tonight Show appearance? Any different from Charlie Rose? Are you working on a new album? Am I jerking off right now as I type this? Are you having fun with your wife as I type this? Have I stepped over some sort of line? Dude, I just read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, and I have new found respect for you. Where's my car? Yah, I'm an idiot. Never let me drive.
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I've had this feeling that the sign that we'll know we're through this bad period is when people start driving huge cruisers again. Well they are now, but I mean cars like the '59 Caddy. Cars that were built without fuel economy being the #1 concern. I've always been a big V8 car driver, and it really disgusts me how, year after year, we keep adding on more parts to tiny cars so that we can continue to power cars on the wrong fuel. One of the keys, to me, is getting the design so that there are as few parts as you can. I'm not totally with the electric car concept, because the crap involved with batteries is hidden and never included in gas mileage figures. I would think the best approach would be to power cars off of a replacement fuel, like lpg and get the engine to be ultra simple. Very few parts. Get the fuel to be cheap and clean burning so it's like 1959 when nobody cared if the cars were efficient or not. Whether a Caddy got 10 mpg or 15 mpg in 1959 didn't matter much to the folks who bought them. It would seem better to work on the fuel instead of a car with batteries and a hybrid engine as that all seems too complicated.
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